state university, wayne state university, public institutions, that are regulated by state laws, look at the state of michigan, their constitution, it tells -- >> neil: they're saying education is blind. we don't know race, creed, color. >> what's interesting is they're saying that basically this is putting this on the ballot said that, okay university of michigan, state public universities in michigan, you can't make decisions regarding this because now we have this ballot measure, and -- >> neil: explain that. >> it's a constitutional amendment. an amendment to the constitution that the public has a right to vote upon, and they did. 58% of the public voted to pass this constitutional amendment. >> when you have less than 30% of the population who is minority -- >> neil: just on that level alone, whether you go with the deciding it's going to be accepted into your schools, and you don't know their race or creed, nothing, what's wrong with that? >> nothing.